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Last post 09-13-2010 4:29 AM by vassallomartin. 18 replies.
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  • 02-08-2008 11:52 AM

                                    Red shiner "Cyprinella lutrensis",  Ir- red shiner jew kif tigi mssejha mil- americani, rainbow dace jew red-head minnow, hi huta li wiehed mhux ta spiss jaghra.  L’isem ta din il- huta ifiser, “Cyprinella- bil grieg ghal “small carp” u “lutrensis” ifisser otter, referenza ghal post “otter Creek” minfejn giet misjubha l-ewwel darba din il- huta. Mihijiex komunni man- nies maltin ghal diversi faturi, meta din tkun ghal- bejgh fil hwienet go akwarju minajr post fejn tistken, il- lewn taghha jiccarha u wieghed ma joqodx ihares darba tnejn lejn huta ta’ lewn griz palidu, ghax ma tigbiedx l’ghajn u is- sajf malti hu shun wisq ghalijhom. Il- verita hi li din il- huta, specjalment ir- ragel, hi wahda mil- sbieh fost il- familja kbira tac- cyprinids, bhal barbs u danios. Lewn din il- huta hu ikhal car bil- pinnen hommor, fuq gembu, vicijn il- gargi ghandu zewgt strixxi verticali wahda lewn rosa u l-ohra blue. Fuq ir- ras, ir- ragel ghandhu dabra hamra li fin- namra johorgula qieshom ponot bojod (tubercles), listess bhal ma jkolhom il- goldfish fuq il gargi fi zmien in- nammra. Il mara, mghandiex ilwiem attrajenti ghax lewn il fidda, imma sabieha ukoll la darba tisetilja fil- akuarijum,  Barra min hekk, jien li Ghandi par, rajt li verament l’ isem ta rainbow dace jixxirqielhom ukoll ghaliex meta jiedhol xi ragg tax- xemx go l- akwarjum, hu dawn is shiners  jadhu minnhu, lilwien tal qawsalla jirifletti fuqhom , hu verament ikollhom kullur li jpaxxi lil ghajnejn! Ir- red shiner t’origina min North Amerika, specalment fil- west tal missisipi, south Dakota, New Mexico u Texas.Bhala daqs, din tikber sa 8cm (3.2 inch) Gewwa l’akwarju din hi huta li tisetilja facilment, hi attiva hafna, thobb tkun go ‘shoal’ u mhux ta min iqeda ma hut kalm ghax tgerxu u barra min hekk l’ikel tilhqu min ta l’ewwel hu ftit li xejn thalli ghal haddiehorBhalla ph, s- shiner hi adattabli immens izda tipreferi ph alkaline (7.0- 8.0)Fattur importanti hu li tejx bla heater. Filfatt ikunu ghaktar komdi fix xitwa milli fis- sajf. Dwar l’ikel, din hi fost l’inqas hut li jattu problemi, jieklu kull tip ta ikel tal- hut, li jiedhol f’halqhom u jiggenu ghal ‘livefood’ huta wahieda kapaci tiekol sa’ tazza mimlija dud tan nemus f’gurnata.Sabiex tkattar min din il- huta trid thalijha ghal stagun kiesah, halli tikundizjona ruha ghar- rebbieha. Dan hu l’uniku zmien fejn kiehed ikollu success minnha.  Bhala setup ghal- breeding, wiehed ghandu jarma aquarju zghir, qisu 20ltr bil qieh miksi caghaq u ftit javamoss. Is setup iridt ikun qisu tal- barbs u id- danios. Meta il- par titfahhom ghal breeding, dawn jibdew nimbxu lil xulxien, jigru gol- mops u xi kultant ir ragel immur quddiem il- mara, jibda qisu jirtghod bil- pinnen miftuhien u bl’ielwien ikangu iktar min qatt qabel. Flimkien imbghad jibdeghew iduru cirku, hu jerhu il- bajd fejn gie gie, imma spiss jipruvaw jerhuh mal- javamoss.Wara li ilestu, bhal barbs, jinzlu iffietxu il- bajd sabiex jiekluh, hemmekk wiehed jrid ifitex jnehiehom. Il- bajd jiehu mat- tlieta sa hamest ijiem sabiex iffaqas u jiehdu gighma sabiex jsieru ‘freeswimming’. Dan hu kull ma nista nejd fuq din il huta hekk ghal qalbi. Dnub li f’pajjiza titqies bhala ixka ghal hut il- kbir hu jaghmluhom purpetti ukoll! Waqt li fl’Europa tigi meqjusa bhala pest, hu ta’riskju ta’ dannu lil ambjent u fawna lokali, jekk tigi imwadba f’xi xmara.  Ghalekk, hbieb meta tkunu f’xi hanut u taraw xi huta griza u bla ilwien, tibqawx ghadejien ghax jaf li dik il- huta griza cassa, la darba titqied fxi’ aquarju komda,  timbidhel hu isser kolla ilwien, hekk kif gralli jien biex shiners! ( l’informazjoni dwar it- tkattier giebtu, b’esperjenza personali li kelli meta rabejt dawn il-hut. Lilli bieduli, imma ma kelliex xorti infaqqas xejn!) Bertrand Sant.
  • 02-08-2008 12:10 PM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    dak wihed min tijak bert???? din il uta vera sabiha imma kemxejn expensive lahar li rajt minnom, ax kiku kont nihu shoal id dar

    chris
    the aquarist is a three type hybrid part biologist part chemist and part veterinarian
  • 02-08-2008 12:11 PM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    THANKS! very detailed and informative article!Smile WISH I HAD SOME !

    At first you are in control of your hobby but later on Fish Keeping will manilpulate you :s
    - true story -


  • 02-09-2008 1:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

     il par shinners mietli ghax is sajf li ghada ghax inqatalna id dawl ghal jumejn hu kien hemm heatwave!  dawk il jumejn ma ninsiehom qatt daqs kemm tlieft hutCrying! Dawn hut tan north Amerika, u jhobbu il kurent hu ilma frisk, pero, aktar il quddiem imhajjar ghal fat head minnows, huta li tejx fkul ilma u bla heater,  pero bi shana ma tbatiex hu tkattara bhac cichlids, ir ragel jiehu terrietorju go xi pot meqlub u jiehu hsieb il frieh! tal- genn hux! Big Smile

  • 02-09-2008 5:42 AM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    Gieli raj minnhom hawn Malta? dawk juzawhom bhala baits hux?

    At first you are in control of your hobby but later on Fish Keeping will manilpulate you :s
    - true story -


  • 02-09-2008 5:46 AM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    barra min malta juzawa bhlal bait fish, imma awn malta qedin naqra prezzoli biuex tuzom bait fish lahhar li rajt jien kinu xi 4 euros

    chris
    the aquarist is a three type hybrid part biologist part chemist and part veterinarian
  • 02-09-2008 6:23 AM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    Mela gieli gabu minnhom??

    At first you are in control of your hobby but later on Fish Keeping will manilpulate you :s
    - true story -


  • 02-09-2008 6:35 AM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    aquahobbies kellu xi 4 months ilu nahseb kinu zar imma imma zbieh hafna jekk tordna issib zgur.

    chris
    the aquarist is a three type hybrid part biologist part chemist and part veterinarian
  • 02-09-2008 7:56 AM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    u jien kont xtrajn tieghi minnhand il waterworld tar rabat!, kienu xi LM2.50 each dak iz zmien!

  • 02-09-2008 8:37 AM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    mela nahseb hadt zball jien fuq il prezz lol nahseb kinu iktar min 4 euros mela imma insejt

    chris
    the aquarist is a three type hybrid part biologist part chemist and part veterinarian
  • 02-10-2008 5:16 AM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    Nahseb fimtuni hazin...ghal fatheads qieghed nghid! Surprise

    At first you are in control of your hobby but later on Fish Keeping will manilpulate you :s
    - true story -


  • 02-10-2008 10:26 AM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    eehh! fimhtek hazin gbin!Surprise sissa jien ghadni qatt ma rajt minnhom, imma jekk nordna igibhuli ta! Stick out tongue

  • 02-15-2008 1:54 PM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    Fatheads (Pimephalus promelas) are sometimes seen in European stocklists but are not listed as a regular item. 

    On the other hand the Red Shiner (Cyprinella lutrensis) has gained popularity even in Asian farms.  Still they demand a price a little higher than most other minnows.  They are best housed in ponds, especially in Summer and if given the right conditions, can be as prolific as wcmm.

  • 02-17-2008 10:31 AM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    Hi johnF, I've read that fathead minnows are a very hary fish, such as their use as a bait or feeder fish,this makes me think that they are much more hardier than shinners,as the later suffers more from oxegen depletion and high tempretures. An intresting factor is their way of breeding, more simmilar to a cichlid as the male makes parental care and if well fed the whole shoal wouldn't touch any fry, am I write?

  • 02-17-2008 1:30 PM In reply to

    Re: Red shinner- male in breeding conditions

    Yes Fatheads are much more hardy and are sometimes introduced in stale pools to control mosquito populations instead of gambusia. 

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